The 49-year-old
has a long history of working in the field of sociology, including
a former professorship and a cache of books she authored
on the subject. Although Lévai says her time as minister has
been well spent, which included the development, passing and
enforcement of Hungary’s first anti-discrimination legislation
– mandated by the European Union ahead of accession – she will
likely be off soon to Brussels, nominated near the top of Hungary’s
Socialist Party list to run in European Parliament elections.
Lévai says she welcomes the opportunity to represent her country
abroad, and promises to continue championing for the rights of
minority and vulnerable groups, even from her post inside the EU.
Ahead of Hungary’s EU accession, she spoke to DT – Diplomacy & Trade
about her service in Hungary, and what she expects from a future
Brussels posting.
Your ministry is best associated with Hungary’s newly introduced
anti-discrimination legislation. Have there been any claims under
this new law? Do you expect it to be a well-used mechanism for
minority groups?
Katalin Lévai This bill was adopted
two months ago by the Parliament, and this is a short time to judge
the effect of the law. We believe
employees are very vulnerable - especially groups of women with
small children, women above the age of 40, people who live in the
countryside, or the Roma as well as people who live with disabilities.
This law means that every state-owned company that employs more
than 50 people is obliged to prepare an equal opportunity program
and firms are obliged to state what kind of measures and mechanisms
are put to work in the interest of these vulnerable groups.
According
to Lévai, Hungary’s National Civil Fund is a concept that could
be emulated in Europe
Large multinational companies often have much more developed
equal opportunity programs than Hungarian companies. This is a
contradiction
because we often curse the multinational companies by claiming
that they are inhumane, and make people work so much. This legislation
helps in supporting the philosophy, mentality and culture of
equal treatment and opportunities. But there is always a gap between
the law and its implementation. Employers have to realize that
it is an obligation for them to prepare equal opportunity plans,
or face being sanctioned. What we will do is to start programs
where we support those companies that employ vulnerable groups,
and supply them with either money or possibilities for free education
in order to encourage them to employ women who are over 40. If
they don’t meet the demands of the law, then this fact will be
publicized through the media. I give interviews and I will tell
the names, and so will my colleagues who also give interviews.
Companies don’t tend to like that.
How will vulnerable groups like the Roma benefit from EU accession,
or someone in eastern Hungary who already has a difficult life?
Katalin Lévai Changes
will not be felt at the moment of accession itself, but a year
or two after the accession period when the
most vulnerable will begin to feel that something has changed.
But we have the National Development Plan (NDP), and with this
we have achieved something very important. Associated with
the NDP we have prepared a compulsory equal opportunity plan.
This
impacts the use of resources, and points to taking into consideration
equal opportunity in the spending of millions and billions
of forints. It becomes a must, and is not an option. Whenever
a
project is tendered, whenever it is monitored, the principles
of equal opportunity must be applied, and I think this is real
mainstreaming. In previous government policy and practice,
this was not used. I think this is a big development, and it
means
that groups like the Roma, women, etc. have real priority when
a tender is issued.
Since the office for equal opportunity was created, there has
been a wide range of interest groups that have lobbied for your
attention. How do you go about making the tough decisions that
might alienate some groups that look to you, such as your former
conflict with Hungary’s prostitutes?
Katalin Lévai This
is the only group that confronted me, and I am very sorry about
that because we did a lot in the field
where we could. But they asked for something which we do not
have a mandate for, as we are not responsible for the districts
where prostitutes can work. We are responsible in three areas
concerning prostitution, the first is prevention, where we
try to protect young children, young women and young men
from becoming
prostitutes. It means education, and that we did. We initiated
many programs aimed at preventing prostitution, and we would
also like to help the prostitutes. The second area we deal
with is re-integration, where we help these individuals find
jobs
and other careers, since we do not believe that being a prostitute
is a career. The final area is rehabilitation, and here we
created the first crisis center in Hungary for all those
women who are
in danger and want to get legal aid. We did a lot of things
to help in this field. Meanwhile, the prostitutes were not
satisfied
with it, and that is why we had a conflict.
You are at the top of the list of the Hungarian Socialist
Party to become a representative in Brussels for the European
Parliament. What issues are important and will you campaign
on topics other than those dealt with by your current ministry?
Katalin Lévai At the moment the focus
of my campaign is equal opportunities. In the broadest sense of
the word, meaning that
I speak for a social Europe. I speak about the future of Hungary,
and the future of Europe. About all those issues that may concern
people living in the countryside, like agriculture and the health
care system. I really do not think that equal opportunity should
be confined to those groups that we have been talking about. It
means that every decision taken should take into account the perspective
of equal treatment and equal opportunity. I want to see a social
Hungary with a focus on issues of health, social, civil rights
and those problems which may effect the majority of people.
Say you are now in Brussels, what is your stance on three main
issues, such as Hungary and its economy, foreign policy and the
population outside its borders. How would you represent Hungary
in the European Parliament on those issues?
Katalin Lévai I know that our economy
is developing, our figures have improved recently. Hungary is interested
in how we can use
resources that we will receive from the EU. We have to prepare
organizations and people to be able to write good tenders and use
resources in the most beneficial way. That is a job we have to
do continually, especially for those regions that are most handicapped
and underdeveloped. At the moment, we have been preparing different
civil organization and companies in the countryside on how to be
able to use these resources in a very effective way.
I do not want to exaggerate, but I believe Hungary takes a good
position among accession countries, according to our economy,
and our will to cooperate with others. But we have to develop,
with
other countries, a culture and more efficient coordination with
those countries that have joined the EU. And in coordinating
those roles we may play a leading role.
We can be a kind of bridge between new and old members. For the
old members it’s an old marriage, while for the new members it’s
a new love. The newly acceded countries can be stronger if we
are in a group. That’s why I emphasize the role of working together.
As for the Hungarian population outside Hungary’s borders, I
think
that so far we have good contacts with them, and this will not
change. We think that it will take time for Romania to catch
up with the EU, and we have to be helpful in this process because
it is in everyone’s interest that all these countries be part
of
the big Europe.
Little is heard on Hungary taking a leading role in EU negotiations.
As a smaller nation, how can Hungary spearhead it’s own agenda?
Katalin Lévai I think our National
Civil Fund is something we can take with us to the EU. This fund
is a kind of new art of cooperation
between state and civil organizations. And it is based on autonomy
and partnership. We have worked out a law for it, and created an
institution. It is such a unique system and can be shown as a Hungarian
specialty that other countries can learn from. It means that in
Hungary, people can donate 1 percent of their income to civil organizations.
Almost 50 percent of people do so. The government has then matched
this amount of money, based on my proposal some months ago. We
supported creation of an institution with a council and different
bodies responsible for distributing the money. The government does
not interfere with the distribution and working mechanisms. This
means that 17 times as much money will be received by civil organizations
this year than in the previous ones.
As for promoting Hungary, we will be in every commission in the
European Parliament and we will have 24 representatives and we
will keep together and agree on different subjects. If we stick
together and remain strong, 24 people is not a very small group
and then I think we can converge and coordinate with other countries. |